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]]> By: Rob A http://hugeasscity.com/2008/03/14/glassy/comment-page-1/#comment-363 Rob A Tue, 06 May 2008 22:31:44 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/03/14/glassy/#comment-363 BTW, Olive 8 does includes a list of all of their green features on their site. Here is a link to the PDF: http://www.olive8.com/greenliving/green_living_at_olive_8.pdf Despite your misplaced criticism, it seems that it will be one of the greener buildings in Seattle to date. So kudos to them! BTW, Olive 8 does includes a list of all of their green features on their site. Here is a link to the PDF: http://www.olive8.com/greenliving/green_living_at_olive_8.pdf

Despite your misplaced criticism, it seems that it will be one of the greener buildings in Seattle to date. So kudos to them!

]]> By: Steve http://hugeasscity.com/2008/03/14/glassy/comment-page-1/#comment-362 Steve Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:53:52 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/03/14/glassy/#comment-362 To harp on the luxury condos point: One argument I've heard for luxury condos is that, given that the number 1 factor in where companies relocate is CEO commute time, it makes sense to make the central city as glamorous as possible. That is, if the CEO lives downtown, the company is probably based downtown and will stay based downtown, which makes for much more sustainable transportation. I'm not sure how much credence to give this argument, but it's interesting... To harp on the luxury condos point: One argument I’ve heard for luxury condos is that, given that the number 1 factor in where companies relocate is CEO commute time, it makes sense to make the central city as glamorous as possible. That is, if the CEO lives downtown, the company is probably based downtown and will stay based downtown, which makes for much more sustainable transportation.

I’m not sure how much credence to give this argument, but it’s interesting…

]]> By: danb http://hugeasscity.com/2008/03/14/glassy/comment-page-1/#comment-361 danb Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:10:42 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/03/14/glassy/#comment-361 BWD: there's nothing environmentally beneficial about the etched glass -- I just think it looks cool, and I don't thing the architects were trying to fool anyone about the building structure. AVG: thanks for pointing out the TDR. It's great that Olive 8 took advantage of that program. MTE: As you say, definitely not hundreds of thousands for LEED documentation, but easily $50k for a high-rise building, which is significant. The cost of LEED documentation is definitely an issue smaller projects that don't have the overhead. RA: Of course dense luxury housing is more sustainable than sprawling luxury housing. But the bottom line is luxury housing means more space used and greater resource consumption. I'm not saying luxury should be outlawed, but if we are serious about creating a sustainable city, luxury condos should be pretty low on the priority list. BWD: there’s nothing environmentally beneficial about the etched glass — I just think it looks cool, and I don’t thing the architects were trying to fool anyone about the building structure.

AVG: thanks for pointing out the TDR. It’s great that Olive 8 took advantage of that program.

MTE: As you say, definitely not hundreds of thousands for LEED documentation, but easily $50k for a high-rise building, which is significant. The cost of LEED documentation is definitely an issue smaller projects that don’t have the overhead.

RA: Of course dense luxury housing is more sustainable than sprawling luxury housing. But the bottom line is luxury housing means more space used and greater resource consumption. I’m not saying luxury should be outlawed, but if we are serious about creating a sustainable city, luxury condos should be pretty low on the priority list.

]]> By: B. W. Davis http://hugeasscity.com/2008/03/14/glassy/comment-page-1/#comment-360 B. W. Davis Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:18:39 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/03/14/glassy/#comment-360 I think the application of using etched glass to create the illusion of more structure looks cheap. However, if this construction practice is more environmentally conservative, I support it. I think the application of using etched glass to create the illusion of more structure looks cheap. However, if this construction practice is more environmentally conservative, I support it.

]]> By: AlisonVG http://hugeasscity.com/2008/03/14/glassy/comment-page-1/#comment-354 AlisonVG Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:53:55 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/03/14/glassy/#comment-354 Maybe it's even greener than you think - they got a portion of the height bonus by conserving hundreds of acres of rural open space: http://dnr.metrokc.gov/dnrp/press/2006/1109TDR-olive8.htm Maybe it’s even greener than you think – they got a portion of the height bonus by conserving hundreds of acres of rural open space: http://dnr.metrokc.gov/dnrp/press/2006/1109TDR-olive8.htm

]]> By: Matt the Engineer http://hugeasscity.com/2008/03/14/glassy/comment-page-1/#comment-359 Matt the Engineer Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:39:36 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/03/14/glassy/#comment-359 DG, I hereby revoke your license to use numbers. It's clear you don't know what you're doing. Lifespan of 6 years: see dan's comment. Don't produce enough energy to rotate themselves: Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Rotating solar usually uses external power, but that's because otherwise they'd be facing the wrong way in the morning. The rotating motors use a small fraction of a Watt. Leed certification costs hundreds of thousands of dollars: Please add me to your next leed certified project. I'll work for half that. DG, I hereby revoke your license to use numbers. It’s clear you don’t know what you’re doing.

Lifespan of 6 years: see dan’s comment.

Don’t produce enough energy to rotate themselves: Do you have any idea what you’re talking about? Rotating solar usually uses external power, but that’s because otherwise they’d be facing the wrong way in the morning. The rotating motors use a small fraction of a Watt.

Leed certification costs hundreds of thousands of dollars: Please add me to your next leed certified project. I’ll work for half that.

]]> By: Rob A http://hugeasscity.com/2008/03/14/glassy/comment-page-1/#comment-358 Rob A Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:36:46 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/03/14/glassy/#comment-358 Regarding sustainability - which is more sustainable: living in a luxury condo downtown or living in a luxury home in the suburbs (or even in Madison Park)? Surely the former, and by a large measure at that... I dont think we are at, or will ever be at, the point where luxury in of itself needs to be completely abandoned for the sake of sustainability. If history has proven anything, we find a way. Always have and always will. It might not get here as fast, or in the exact shape, as we want, but it will happen all the same. Regarding sustainability – which is more sustainable: living in a luxury condo downtown or living in a luxury home in the suburbs (or even in Madison Park)? Surely the former, and by a large measure at that… I dont think we are at, or will ever be at, the point where luxury in of itself needs to be completely abandoned for the sake of sustainability. If history has proven anything, we find a way. Always have and always will. It might not get here as fast, or in the exact shape, as we want, but it will happen all the same.

]]> By: danb http://hugeasscity.com/2008/03/14/glassy/comment-page-1/#comment-357 danb Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:23:36 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/03/14/glassy/#comment-357 DG, I sort of agree in general, but PV panels last a lot longer than 6 years -- the typical warranty is 20 to 25 years. Rob A, yes I should have realized that they would need to go for LEED to get the height bonus. Steve, that topic is big enough for another blog post. Yes, in short I meant that luxury living is not sustainable. It can be hard to get the meaning across when trying to keep it super concise for a blog post. I also think that a building like Olive 8 is not the best thing for the social side of sustainability... DG, I sort of agree in general, but PV panels last a lot longer than 6 years — the typical warranty is 20 to 25 years.

Rob A, yes I should have realized that they would need to go for LEED to get the height bonus.

Steve, that topic is big enough for another blog post. Yes, in short I meant that luxury living is not sustainable. It can be hard to get the meaning across when trying to keep it super concise for a blog post. I also think that a building like Olive 8 is not the best thing for the social side of sustainability…

]]> By: Steve http://hugeasscity.com/2008/03/14/glassy/comment-page-1/#comment-353 Steve Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:33:25 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/03/14/glassy/#comment-353 "That’s unfortunate, but perhaps more honest than pretending that tacking on a few green features can make up for the massive environmental footprint of the lifestyles upon which such a building depends." Out of curiosity, what makes you say there's a massive environmental footprint of the lifestyles? The environmental costs of constructing the building? The assumption that anyone living in such luxury housing probably flies a lot and/or buys a lot of goods from all over the world? Something else? “That’s unfortunate, but perhaps more honest than pretending that tacking on a few green features can make up for the massive environmental footprint of the lifestyles upon which such a building depends.”

Out of curiosity, what makes you say there’s a massive environmental footprint of the lifestyles? The environmental costs of constructing the building? The assumption that anyone living in such luxury housing probably flies a lot and/or buys a lot of goods from all over the world? Something else?

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