Comments on: The Hole Grows Deeper http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/ > so much wonderful packaged in such a mess Fri, 18 May 2012 04:54:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: JoshMahar http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/comment-page-1/#comment-489 JoshMahar Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:33:42 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/#comment-489 I understand that each new condo worries you but Ballard as a whole is certainly not in danger of losing its local characteristics. In fact, getting more people in the area will get more resources for other major projects and restoration work in the area. Ballard as a neighborhood will be fine. Sure our transportation system is behind but we need more people riding for anything to go ahead. Have you walked into the downtown transit tunnel, its beautiful, clean, convenient...and completely deserted. When the downtown tunnels are crackin, with newstands and street performers, then we can work on building more public transit, and that day will come soon, mark my words. I understand that each new condo worries you but Ballard as a whole is certainly not in danger of losing its local characteristics. In fact, getting more people in the area will get more resources for other major projects and restoration work in the area. Ballard as a neighborhood will be fine.

Sure our transportation system is behind but we need more people riding for anything to go ahead. Have you walked into the downtown transit tunnel, its beautiful, clean, convenient…and completely deserted. When the downtown tunnels are crackin, with newstands and street performers, then we can work on building more public transit, and that day will come soon, mark my words.

]]> By: PostModernDecay http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/comment-page-1/#comment-488 PostModernDecay Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:56:30 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/#comment-488 But not the 17, or 18? I moved back here from the UK ten years ago, when I first heard about light rail. And they're still not done with the first phase. London got 2 new lines in half that time. We all know the Robert Moses approach is way too extreme, more so for here. But 10 years seems a bit much when it is still decades behind the city's growth. But not the 17, or 18?

I moved back here from the UK ten years ago, when I first heard about light rail. And they’re still not done with the first phase. London got 2 new lines in half that time. We all know the Robert Moses approach is way too extreme, more so for here. But 10 years seems a bit much when it is still decades behind the city’s growth.

]]> By: Cale http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/comment-page-1/#comment-487 Cale Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:17:03 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/#comment-487 PRD @9 There ARE more buses coming to Ballard From Metro's web site- http://www.metrokc.gov/kcdot/news/2008/nr080404_TNpartnerships.htm "Ballard: This September a partnership with the city of Seattle takes effect, including an agreement to provide more frequent service on three routes serving Ballard and adjacent neighborhoods. In September, there will be more service on local routes 26, 28 and 44. In 2009, Metro and the city add service on Route 48, followed by additional trips on routes 5 and 75 in 2010." Not to mention RapidRide- http://www.metrokc.gov/kcdot/transitnow/rapidride.stm Next we need light rail. Don't be so defeatist. PRD @9

There ARE more buses coming to Ballard

From Metro’s web site-
http://www.metrokc.gov/kcdot/news/2008/nr080404_TNpartnerships.htm

“Ballard: This September a partnership with the city of Seattle takes effect, including an agreement to provide more frequent service on three routes serving Ballard and adjacent neighborhoods. In September, there will be more service on local routes 26, 28 and 44. In 2009, Metro and the city add service on Route 48, followed by additional trips on routes 5 and 75 in 2010.”

Not to mention RapidRide-

http://www.metrokc.gov/kcdot/transitnow/rapidride.stm

Next we need light rail. Don’t be so defeatist.

]]> By: PostModernDecay http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/comment-page-1/#comment-486 PostModernDecay Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:09:23 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/#comment-486 1. Monorail is not coming to Ballard, or anywhere. Someone will always find a way to stop it. 2. There is no room for more lanes of traffic. Between water and hills we have a rather restrictive geography. 3. You could add more buses but neither the city or county is bound to do that. 4. A train line from the U District to the Airport does not effect the vast majority of the city. Any expansion of that will run straight into the standard Seattle mantra of doing nothing decisive. Not being able to move people around effectively will eventually compromise the local economy. 1. Monorail is not coming to Ballard, or anywhere. Someone will always find a way to stop it.

2. There is no room for more lanes of traffic. Between water and hills we have a rather restrictive geography.

3. You could add more buses but neither the city or county is bound to do that.

4. A train line from the U District to the Airport does not effect the vast majority of the city. Any expansion of that will run straight into the standard Seattle mantra of doing nothing decisive. Not being able to move people around effectively will eventually compromise the local economy.

]]> By: dorian gray http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/comment-page-1/#comment-485 dorian gray Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:53:36 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/#comment-485 Traffic in PMSA's virtually always run at maximum capacity -the if-you-build-it-they-will-come paradigm. Adding more just brings more -whether it's monorail, car lanes etc. Another benefit (which you also seem to detest per your yuppie bit) of mass transit is increased real estate values for properties (especially parcels within a 1 block radius of a stop-node) which will lead to more yuppies! It's an massive shift of a bid-rent curve for an entire city effectively. Be honest. Had the quaint home been your personal lair de PMD, you would have sold for the loot forthwith. Traffic in PMSA’s virtually always run at maximum capacity -the if-you-build-it-they-will-come paradigm. Adding more just brings more -whether it’s monorail, car lanes etc. Another benefit (which you also seem to detest per your yuppie bit) of mass transit is increased real estate values for properties (especially parcels within a 1 block radius of a stop-node) which will lead to more yuppies! It’s an massive shift of a bid-rent curve for an entire city effectively.

Be honest. Had the quaint home been your personal lair de PMD, you would have sold for the loot forthwith.

]]> By: PostModernDecay http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/comment-page-1/#comment-484 PostModernDecay Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:48:15 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/#comment-484 More cars on the streets will quickly negate any pedestrian improvements. I walk across Ballard two to four times a day and I nearly get hit twice a month crossing the street either in a crosswalk, or with a walk sign. And it's getting worse. More cars on the streets will quickly negate any pedestrian improvements. I walk across Ballard two to four times a day and I nearly get hit twice a month crossing the street either in a crosswalk, or with a walk sign. And it’s getting worse.

]]> By: PostModernDecay http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/comment-page-1/#comment-483 PostModernDecay Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:41:25 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/#comment-483 I just see density that could compromise what makes the neighborhood unique. It's about the cultural and economic homogenization of a lot of the city. But more important, as I've stated in an earlier post, there is NO plan to move these people in and out every day. Parking is one thing, but Market is already full up during rush hour. Adding more people means adding more cars, and public transportation is several decades behind the population growth. The private end of this growth is not matched by the expansion of the public infrastructure to support it. I just see density that could compromise what makes the neighborhood unique. It’s about the cultural and economic homogenization of a lot of the city. But more important, as I’ve stated in an earlier post, there is NO plan to move these people in and out every day. Parking is one thing, but Market is already full up during rush hour. Adding more people means adding more cars, and public transportation is several decades behind the population growth. The private end of this growth is not matched by the expansion of the public infrastructure to support it.

]]> By: dorian gray http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/comment-page-1/#comment-482 dorian gray Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:41:21 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/#comment-482 Umm wasn't this the area that voters approved funds for the civic center/library/park to improve the pedestrian nature of Ballard? So with a huge new QFC under construction and Ballard Ave and Market just a couple blocks away..wait no, your right. There is no common sense to the condos selling around there. Umm wasn’t this the area that voters approved funds for the civic center/library/park to improve the pedestrian nature of Ballard?

So with a huge new QFC under construction and Ballard Ave and Market just a couple blocks away..wait no, your right. There is no common sense to the condos selling around there.

]]> By: flotown http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/comment-page-1/#comment-481 flotown Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:23:29 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/#comment-481 Why would you want lots to disappear for infill housing development? Maybe I'm confused but isn't this precisely the type of growth fostered by our comp plan? Why would you want lots to disappear for infill housing development? Maybe I’m confused but isn’t this precisely the type of growth fostered by our comp plan?

]]> By: PostModernDecay http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/comment-page-1/#comment-480 PostModernDecay Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:46:13 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/04/07/the-hole-grows-deeper/#comment-480 The vandalism happened mostly AFTER it was fenced off and boarded up, within a few months before it was demolished. The vandalism happened mostly AFTER it was fenced off and boarded up, within a few months before it was demolished.

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