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	<title>Comments on: TOD on MLK</title>
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	<description>&#62; so much wonderful packaged in such a mess</description>
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		<title>By: What Does TOD Look Like? &#124; hugeasscity</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/22/tod-on-mlk/comment-page-1/#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator>What Does TOD Look Like? &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The critical factor: zoning. The maximum building height in the Columbia City station area is only 40 feet (four stories). From the zoning map (pdf), I&#8217;d guesstimate that at least half of the property in the station area is zoned lowrise or single family. This low-density zoning cripples the TOD opportunity. And the situation at the other four Southeast Seattle stations is similar, though 65 feet is allowed in some cases. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The critical factor: zoning. The maximum building height in the Columbia City station area is only 40 feet (four stories). From the zoning map (pdf), I&#8217;d guesstimate that at least half of the property in the station area is zoned lowrise or single family. This low-density zoning cripples the TOD opportunity. And the situation at the other four Southeast Seattle stations is similar, though 65 feet is allowed in some cases. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Krugman Joins Team Density &#124; hugeasscity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Krugman Joins Team Density &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Krugman&#8217;s description of the Berlin neighborhood consisting mainly of four and five story apartments further congeals a thought that&#8217;s been knocking around my head lately: that ultimately the sustainable urban form of the future will be midrise. In this spicy essay on localism, James Howard Kunstler quips that &#8220;skyscrapers are an endangered species,&#8221; basically because they are too energy intensive. Midrise (4 to 6 stories) is relatively cheap to build, doesn&#8217;t necessarily need elevators, has an agreeable urban form, and can achieve high density (if there are enough of them). Maybe I should shut up about upzoning for taller buildings&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Krugman&#8217;s description of the Berlin neighborhood consisting mainly of four and five story apartments further congeals a thought that&#8217;s been knocking around my head lately: that ultimately the sustainable urban form of the future will be midrise. In this spicy essay on localism, James Howard Kunstler quips that &#8220;skyscrapers are an endangered species,&#8221; basically because they are too energy intensive. Midrise (4 to 6 stories) is relatively cheap to build, doesn&#8217;t necessarily need elevators, has an agreeable urban form, and can achieve high density (if there are enough of them). Maybe I should shut up about upzoning for taller buildings&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cale</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/22/tod-on-mlk/comment-page-1/#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>Cale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cow @ #3

I most definitely prefer 6-story for neighborhoods outside of downtown. This more human scale style of building has worked for centuries in Europe and I think it works especially well in these predominantly residential neighborhoods. I&#039;d rather see more 6 story buildings spread out over a larger area than just a few towers casting shadows and looming over everything.

Downtowns on the other hand...


Actually, there is one station in particular where I think height would be good,and that is the Mt. Baker station where a bunch of strip malls currently stand. The area is isolated enough from the single families to the east and west, and close enough to downtown that a much taller height would feel right there. Especially right around McCellan and Rainier.</description>
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<p>I most definitely prefer 6-story for neighborhoods outside of downtown. This more human scale style of building has worked for centuries in Europe and I think it works especially well in these predominantly residential neighborhoods. I&#8217;d rather see more 6 story buildings spread out over a larger area than just a few towers casting shadows and looming over everything.</p>
<p>Downtowns on the other hand&#8230;</p>
<p>Actually, there is one station in particular where I think height would be good,and that is the Mt. Baker station where a bunch of strip malls currently stand. The area is isolated enough from the single families to the east and west, and close enough to downtown that a much taller height would feel right there. Especially right around McCellan and Rainier.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>again, no vision from the City. Hate to be a negative nanny, but the City&#039;s inability to put all the necessary planning and design pieces together to ensure high quality, dense development has again been demonstrated in its station area planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again, no vision from the City. Hate to be a negative nanny, but the City&#8217;s inability to put all the necessary planning and design pieces together to ensure high quality, dense development has again been demonstrated in its station area planning.</p>
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		<title>By: Cow</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2008/04/22/tod-on-mlk/comment-page-1/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>Cow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TransLink (in Vancouver) just announced that the next SkyTrain line--being built further out into the suburbs and connecting with one of the current lines--will be funded, in large part, by selling the land next to the line to developers.

TOD works really well here; if you&#039;re riding SkyTrain, you can see where stations are by watching for clusters of skyscrapers surrounded by single-family homes. (It&#039;s evening out a bit more over time, but a lot of this is still fairly new.) I&#039;m excited to see it coming to Seattle, and I too wish the height limits would be raised for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TransLink (in Vancouver) just announced that the next SkyTrain line&#8211;being built further out into the suburbs and connecting with one of the current lines&#8211;will be funded, in large part, by selling the land next to the line to developers.</p>
<p>TOD works really well here; if you&#8217;re riding SkyTrain, you can see where stations are by watching for clusters of skyscrapers surrounded by single-family homes. (It&#8217;s evening out a bit more over time, but a lot of this is still fairly new.) I&#8217;m excited to see it coming to Seattle, and I too wish the height limits would be raised for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Staley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Staley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aurora, CO has different street standards, too, in its TOD zones. Context-sensitive design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aurora, CO has different street standards, too, in its TOD zones. Context-sensitive design.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are any of the station area overlays in effect yet? I would hope that would increase the height or FAR allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are any of the station area overlays in effect yet? I would hope that would increase the height or FAR allowed.</p>
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