Comments on: Which Slice To Eat First? http://hugeasscity.com/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/ > so much wonderful packaged in such a mess Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:54:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Master Spa Parts http://hugeasscity.com/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/comment-page-1/#comment-261507 Master Spa Parts Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:17:25 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/#comment-261507 I enjoy keeping up to date on everything different so I'll unquestionably be bookmarking this site. I enjoy keeping up to date on everything different so I’ll unquestionably be bookmarking this site.

]]> By: fruit machine jenny http://hugeasscity.com/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1467 fruit machine jenny Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:14:00 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/#comment-1467 the comments here are having a laugh - i've added your blog to my netvibes account, keep up the good work :) the comments here are having a laugh – i’ve added your blog to my netvibes account, keep up the good work :)

]]> By: gw http://hugeasscity.com/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1466 gw Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:08:14 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/#comment-1466 "I wonder if SIPs are catching on here" Interesting you should pose that question Matt. You included a link to sips.org, which as it turns out is based in Gig Harbor. “I wonder if SIPs are catching on here” Interesting you should pose that question Matt. You included a link to sips.org, which as it turns out is based in Gig Harbor.

]]> By: gw http://hugeasscity.com/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1465 gw Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:15:33 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/#comment-1465 I wish I knew someone who owns a house actually insulated at or above code minimum! Insulated glass, major infiltration remediation and a heat recovery ventilator are all on my list. I wish you could remodel with SIP's. The thought of how much easier it would be to just build a new house the way I want it just kills me. It's frustrating to see new construction in my neighborhood going up pretty much like it did, well, 100 years ago. OK so you weren't required to have insulation back then, but if you did it would have looked the same. Does anyone else think that not much has really changed? I wish I knew someone who owns a house actually insulated at or above code minimum!

Insulated glass, major infiltration remediation and a heat recovery ventilator are all on my list.

I wish you could remodel with SIP’s. The thought of how much easier it would be to just build a new house the way I want it just kills me. It’s frustrating to see new construction in my neighborhood going up pretty much like it did, well, 100 years ago. OK so you weren’t required to have insulation back then, but if you did it would have looked the same. Does anyone else think that not much has really changed?

]]> By: Matt the Engineer http://hugeasscity.com/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1464 Matt the Engineer Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:43:50 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/#comment-1464 Insulation will get you pretty far in our climate. Don't forget about your windows - you lose a lot of heat through them. Go Low-E and consider triple pane for new construction. Blocking air infiltration is another energy saver (I wonder if <a href="http://www.sips.org/content/about/index.cfm?pageId=7" rel="nofollow">SIPs</a> are catching on here), but at some point you'll have a problem with ventilation - the solution there is a heat exchanger on your toilet exhaust to makeup air. Insulation will get you pretty far in our climate. Don’t forget about your windows – you lose a lot of heat through them. Go Low-E and consider triple pane for new construction. Blocking air infiltration is another energy saver (I wonder if SIPs are catching on here), but at some point you’ll have a problem with ventilation – the solution there is a heat exchanger on your toilet exhaust to makeup air.

]]> By: Dan Staley http://hugeasscity.com/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1463 Dan Staley Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:42:23 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/#comment-1463 <i>Maybe all that money is best spent on plain-old boring insulation? </i> Yes. Spend some time in a straw bale home or one that is well-insulated (say, R-30 walls) and designed for passive solar (OK, not the best idea in western WA state, but still) and you'll see why. Maybe all that money is best spent on plain-old boring insulation?

Yes.

Spend some time in a straw bale home or one that is well-insulated (say, R-30 walls) and designed for passive solar (OK, not the best idea in western WA state, but still) and you’ll see why.

]]> By: gw http://hugeasscity.com/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1462 gw Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:32:38 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/#comment-1462 So- On the x-axis, the total cost to reach a goal is found by summing the cost per abatement item (area of the bar- cost/ton*gigatons = cost) for each bar to the left of that goal. No? The y-axis is a net cost to the whole economy? Spend money on building insulation and save even more on energy costs. Conversely, throw enough money at Biodiesel to make it sustainable and save only CO2. So with all these "freebies", what's the holdup? This graph caught my attention b/c my own research in alt energies/conservation for my 850sf SFD have repeatedly let me back to the same three strategies: insulation, insulation and more insulation. I am really interested in supporting the burgeoning solar thermal industry with a purchase (taking advantage of the expiring tax credit), but recently I'm having second thoughts- and the graph reinforces that. Maybe all that money is best spent on plain-old boring insulation? So- On the x-axis, the total cost to reach a goal is found by summing the cost per abatement item (area of the bar- cost/ton*gigatons = cost) for each bar to the left of that goal. No?
The y-axis is a net cost to the whole economy? Spend money on building insulation and save even more on energy costs. Conversely, throw enough money at Biodiesel to make it sustainable and save only CO2.
So with all these “freebies”, what’s the holdup?

This graph caught my attention b/c my own research in alt energies/conservation for my 850sf SFD have repeatedly let me back to the same three strategies: insulation, insulation and more insulation. I am really interested in supporting the burgeoning solar thermal industry with a purchase (taking advantage of the expiring tax credit), but recently I’m having second thoughts- and the graph reinforces that. Maybe all that money is best spent on plain-old boring insulation?

]]> By: Matt the Engineer http://hugeasscity.com/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1461 Matt the Engineer Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:24:50 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/#comment-1461 It looks like the y-axis is cost to remove a ton of carbon dioxide, and the x-axis is abatement potential in giga-tons of carbon dioxide. We actually make money on anything under the zero line, and it will cost money over that line (could be subsidy, or we could fairly price carbon). What I like about this chart is that you can easily see how much it will cost to get to carbon dioxide goals (the 550ppm and 450ppm), including an estimate to get to 400ppm (though we don't know how yet). It looks like the y-axis is cost to remove a ton of carbon dioxide, and the x-axis is abatement potential in giga-tons of carbon dioxide. We actually make money on anything under the zero line, and it will cost money over that line (could be subsidy, or we could fairly price carbon). What I like about this chart is that you can easily see how much it will cost to get to carbon dioxide goals (the 550ppm and 450ppm), including an estimate to get to 400ppm (though we don’t know how yet).

]]> By: gw http://hugeasscity.com/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1460 gw Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:51:56 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/#comment-1460 RE: Dan@9: Yes, LED overheating isn't an issue, but this is only because they were designed that way. So, in a way, it is an issue. No? I was fascinated by the most excellent bar graph above, but I'm still confused. Are there two different measurements occurring on the horizontal axis? What are they? Regarding the zero line on the vertical axis- Dan are you saying/as I read it- items below the line pay for themselves and items above the line would require, say, a government subsidy to realize their abatement potential? RE: Dan@9: Yes, LED overheating isn’t an issue, but this is only because they were designed that way. So, in a way, it is an issue. No?

I was fascinated by the most excellent bar graph above, but I’m still confused. Are there two different measurements occurring on the horizontal axis? What are they? Regarding the zero line on the vertical axis- Dan are you saying/as I read it- items below the line pay for themselves and items above the line would require, say, a government subsidy to realize their abatement potential?

]]> By: Dan Staley http://hugeasscity.com/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1459 Dan Staley Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:54:18 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/08/12/which-slice-to-eat-first/#comment-1459 There's also an interesting general overview in the new CNU Green Council <a href="http://tndtownpaper.com/council/GreenReport.pdf" rel="nofollow">Report</a>, pp 15-16. Not region-specific, but not bad for understandable context either. There’s also an interesting general overview in the new CNU Green Council Report, pp 15-16. Not region-specific, but not bad for understandable context either.

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