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	<title>Comments on: Fixed Guideway Transit and Land Use Patterns, a.k.a: A Good Reason to Vote YES on Proposition 1</title>
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	<description>&#62; so much wonderful packaged in such a mess</description>
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		<title>By: Trains Are Magic &#124; hugeasscity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trains Are Magic &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The populace will love it.  The allure of the train will draw more people to transit, and the permanence of the stations will catalyze rational and compact development patterns.  Urbanist wonk [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The populace will love it.  The allure of the train will draw more people to transit, and the permanence of the stations will catalyze rational and compact development patterns.  Urbanist wonk [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Staley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Staley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us not forget that folks are catching on and want to live near transit, and are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_10850014&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;willing to pay for it&lt;/a&gt;. Which is better than the distant single-fam are doing:

Light-rail can turn into money train
Homes near light-rail lines tend to increase in value
By Margaret Jackson
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 10/29/2008 11:25:37 PM MDT

Margarete Humphrey knows her bungalow near the Louisiana Station light-rail stop is in a hot neighborhood. But she was surprised to learn the value of her home has increased over the past two years as much of the metro Denver housing market has declined.

Homes near light-rail stations along the southeast line, which opened in November 2006, have increased by an average of nearly 4 percent over the past two years, according to an analysis by Your Castle Real Estate. But the rest of the Denver market declined an average of 7.5 percent.

&quot;I know that it&#039;s always been a good neighborhood, but I didn&#039;t think it was like that,&quot; said Humphrey, who doesn&#039;t drive and frequently uses public transportation.

The closer a home is to the station, the more its value increases, according to the Your Castle analysis. Homes less than a half-mile from a station increased an average of 17.6 percent, while those 1 1/2 to 2 miles away increased just 0.1 percent on average. The data varied widely among stations, however.

Under its FasTracks program, the Regional Transportation District plans to create six new commuter-rail and light-rail corridors and extend three existing corridors by 2017, potentially creating other pockets where values are driven by proximity to rail.

In other markets with rail lines, single-family home values have increased anywhere from 2 percent in San Diego to 32 percent in St. Louis, according to data gathered by the Regional Transit District.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us not forget that folks are catching on and want to live near transit, and are <a href="http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_10850014" rel="nofollow">willing to pay for it</a>. Which is better than the distant single-fam are doing:</p>
<p>Light-rail can turn into money train<br />
Homes near light-rail lines tend to increase in value<br />
By Margaret Jackson<br />
The Denver Post<br />
Article Last Updated: 10/29/2008 11:25:37 PM MDT</p>
<p>Margarete Humphrey knows her bungalow near the Louisiana Station light-rail stop is in a hot neighborhood. But she was surprised to learn the value of her home has increased over the past two years as much of the metro Denver housing market has declined.</p>
<p>Homes near light-rail stations along the southeast line, which opened in November 2006, have increased by an average of nearly 4 percent over the past two years, according to an analysis by Your Castle Real Estate. But the rest of the Denver market declined an average of 7.5 percent.</p>
<p>&#8220;I know that it&#8217;s always been a good neighborhood, but I didn&#8217;t think it was like that,&#8221; said Humphrey, who doesn&#8217;t drive and frequently uses public transportation.</p>
<p>The closer a home is to the station, the more its value increases, according to the Your Castle analysis. Homes less than a half-mile from a station increased an average of 17.6 percent, while those 1 1/2 to 2 miles away increased just 0.1 percent on average. The data varied widely among stations, however.</p>
<p>Under its FasTracks program, the Regional Transportation District plans to create six new commuter-rail and light-rail corridors and extend three existing corridors by 2017, potentially creating other pockets where values are driven by proximity to rail.</p>
<p>In other markets with rail lines, single-family home values have increased anywhere from 2 percent in San Diego to 32 percent in St. Louis, according to data gathered by the Regional Transit District.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder whether any of Seattle&#039;s trolley tracks are buried and capable of being restored.  I know you can still see the curve of the old track as a crack in the pavement at 56th and Latona, but I have no idea whether a restored track there would still be usable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder whether any of Seattle&#8217;s trolley tracks are buried and capable of being restored.  I know you can still see the curve of the old track as a crack in the pavement at 56th and Latona, but I have no idea whether a restored track there would still be usable.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabina Pade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabina Pade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At one time not so very long ago, even the Swiss were enthusiastically paving over trolley tracks to clear their narrow city streets for the automobiles their newfound, post-WWII properity was allowing them to purchase.

By the 1980&#039;s, the short-sightedness of their enthusiasm was becoming apparent : car culture, they discovered to their dismay, was destroying their urban heritage and their way of life.  And the solution was equally obvious : restore the trolley lines.  Today, Swiss cities from which trolley lines had been banished are once again served by them.

May Seattleites prove similarly insightful and Seattle equally fortunate.  Although urbanism in the US differs notably from that of old Europe, humans are humans just about everwhere, and walkable communities are consistently the healthiest.  The staid, comfortable, weatherproof trolleycar is a community friend whose worth is best appreciated not in dollars per passenger mile but in civilization units that increase per service distance, frequency and hours operational.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At one time not so very long ago, even the Swiss were enthusiastically paving over trolley tracks to clear their narrow city streets for the automobiles their newfound, post-WWII properity was allowing them to purchase.</p>
<p>By the 1980&#8217;s, the short-sightedness of their enthusiasm was becoming apparent : car culture, they discovered to their dismay, was destroying their urban heritage and their way of life.  And the solution was equally obvious : restore the trolley lines.  Today, Swiss cities from which trolley lines had been banished are once again served by them.</p>
<p>May Seattleites prove similarly insightful and Seattle equally fortunate.  Although urbanism in the US differs notably from that of old Europe, humans are humans just about everwhere, and walkable communities are consistently the healthiest.  The staid, comfortable, weatherproof trolleycar is a community friend whose worth is best appreciated not in dollars per passenger mile but in civilization units that increase per service distance, frequency and hours operational.</p>
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		<title>By: tres_arboles</title>
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		<dc:creator>tres_arboles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Similarly, what’s missing with this gripe is the insight to grasp that most light rail proponents recognize the big picture benefits, and are willing to be unselfish.&quot;  Nice!

This thought so-characterizes my own transit values.  In 1996, I saw Sound Transit 1 as a &quot;seed&quot; even as the anti-transit mob showered us with arguments like, &quot;It won&#039;t solve congestion, costs too much, and doesn&#039;t go anywhere that matters.&quot;  At the time, I lived in West Seattle and wouldn&#039;t have been served by any of the ST improvements even ten years later!

But I voted for it anyways, because I believed if we sprinkled transportation choices around the region, including some clean, modern, sparkly rail lines and stations, we&#039;d create the base of a better, more modern city.  A place with smart growth, a magnet for smart businesses, and a city with cool &quot;looks.&quot;

Now we live in Burien and see the end of the line coming to within two miles of our home (not out my door but perfectly good enough) and I feel like my faith in the idea is being rewarded.  My wife has been phone banking for Mass Transit Now all month and we are pretty passionate about passing ST2.  Thanks for joining the Seattle Transit Blog mantle, Dan, and carrying the issue in your own way!

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Similarly, what’s missing with this gripe is the insight to grasp that most light rail proponents recognize the big picture benefits, and are willing to be unselfish.&#8221;  Nice!</p>
<p>This thought so-characterizes my own transit values.  In 1996, I saw Sound Transit 1 as a &#8220;seed&#8221; even as the anti-transit mob showered us with arguments like, &#8220;It won&#8217;t solve congestion, costs too much, and doesn&#8217;t go anywhere that matters.&#8221;  At the time, I lived in West Seattle and wouldn&#8217;t have been served by any of the ST improvements even ten years later!</p>
<p>But I voted for it anyways, because I believed if we sprinkled transportation choices around the region, including some clean, modern, sparkly rail lines and stations, we&#8217;d create the base of a better, more modern city.  A place with smart growth, a magnet for smart businesses, and a city with cool &#8220;looks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now we live in Burien and see the end of the line coming to within two miles of our home (not out my door but perfectly good enough) and I feel like my faith in the idea is being rewarded.  My wife has been phone banking for Mass Transit Now all month and we are pretty passionate about passing ST2.  Thanks for joining the Seattle Transit Blog mantle, Dan, and carrying the issue in your own way!</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Joe G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concure.  Its seems that society today is very short sided and can not see the benefits of anything in the long run.  This is to our detrimint and to the detriment of generations to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concure.  Its seems that society today is very short sided and can not see the benefits of anything in the long run.  This is to our detrimint and to the detriment of generations to come.</p>
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