Comments on: The Neighborhood School http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/ > so much wonderful packaged in such a mess Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:09:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Clarence Perry « Regina Urban Ecology http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/comment-page-1/#comment-44121 Clarence Perry « Regina Urban Ecology Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:40:46 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/#comment-44121 [...] image of Perry’s neighbourhood unit checkout the hugeasscity.com piece on neighbourhood schools. http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/ Recently, global warming and an uncertain energy future have highlighted the environmental [...] [...] image of Perry’s neighbourhood unit checkout the hugeasscity.com piece on neighbourhood schools. http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/ Recently, global warming and an uncertain energy future have highlighted the environmental [...]

]]> By: dan bertolet http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/comment-page-1/#comment-2229 dan bertolet Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:31:22 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/#comment-2229 Montlake is off the closure list as of today. T.T. Minor is still being closed. Hmm, could that possibly be related to any difference in demographics between those two schools?  The Montlake building is in way worse condition. Montlake is off the closure list as of today. T.T. Minor is still being closed. Hmm, could that possibly be related to any difference in demographics between those two schools?  The Montlake building is in way worse condition.

]]> By: GW http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/comment-page-1/#comment-2223 GW Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:05:32 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/#comment-2223 Another little statistic for your edification. As the economy tanks, it looks like the Seattle Public School population is going to swell. The private school pullout rate this year so far is already approaching 20%. Another little statistic for your edification. As the economy tanks, it looks like the Seattle Public School population is going to swell. The private school pullout rate this year so far is already approaching 20%.

]]> By: Steve http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/comment-page-1/#comment-2222 Steve Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:45:44 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/#comment-2222 38 people per acre? If I remember correctly, that's almost twice as dense as Fremont's census tract, so probably denser than anywhere in the city besides Capitol Hill, Belltown and the U District. Even accounting for larger families in a given single-family house, that must have assumed a number of multi-family units too. Fascinating. 38 people per acre? If I remember correctly, that’s almost twice as dense as Fremont’s census tract, so probably denser than anywhere in the city besides Capitol Hill, Belltown and the U District. Even accounting for larger families in a given single-family house, that must have assumed a number of multi-family units too. Fascinating.

]]> By: Dan Staley http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/comment-page-1/#comment-2228 Dan Staley Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:37:06 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/#comment-2228 <i>I heard something along the lines of $1 spent on education saves the penal and court systems $4. Yet, the city looks to build another jail and we are trimming off schools. </i> An old roommate of mine is a teacher. His school system is taught that what California does to estimate future need for prison beds is third grade literacy rate. I heard something along the lines of $1 spent on education saves the penal and court systems $4. Yet, the city looks to build another jail and we are trimming off schools.

An old roommate of mine is a teacher. His school system is taught that what California does to estimate future need for prison beds is third grade literacy rate.

]]> By: Spencer http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/comment-page-1/#comment-2227 Spencer Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:56:57 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/#comment-2227 I heard something along the lines of $1 spent on education saves the penal and court systems $4. Yet, the city looks to build another jail and we are trimming off schools. I heard something along the lines of $1 spent on education saves the penal and court systems $4. Yet, the city looks to build another jail and we are trimming off schools.

]]> By: PensiveCyclist http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/comment-page-1/#comment-2226 PensiveCyclist Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:17:53 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/#comment-2226 I heard an NPR interview with Goodloe-Johnson, she was touting the financial savings of going to Neighboorhood schools. The suburban schools figured this out long ago, is there something in the Seattle water? The sad fact is that the per student funding is not enough without doing away with a bunch of administrative positions. Even an actively funded PTA can make a huge difference at a school, or having a large number of stay-at-home moms that volunteer. I heard an NPR interview with Goodloe-Johnson, she was touting the financial savings of going to Neighboorhood schools.

The suburban schools figured this out long ago, is there something in the Seattle water?

The sad fact is that the per student funding is not enough without doing away with a bunch of administrative positions. Even an actively funded PTA can make a huge difference at a school, or having a large number of stay-at-home moms that volunteer.

]]> By: john http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/comment-page-1/#comment-2224 john Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:53:07 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/#comment-2224 Montlake Elementary is this neighborhood school of old. It's about the most vital place you could imagine. The fact that this school is on the chopping block is extremely troubling. Sure, the building will need a lot of money some day, but it isn't getting any of it now. Yet the place thrives. It's organized chaos of the best kind. The place is full, the parents are involved and the kids are soaring academically. Closing this school would be spiritual death for a splendid section of our city. Certainly the beloved new Montlake Library will feel a bit stiffer without those crazy kids popping in. And the storefronts, without student art shows, will look more drab. The market and coffee shop, lacking chatting parents and snacking kids, will quiet down considerably. And so on. This sucks. Montlake Elementary is this neighborhood school of old. It’s about the most vital place you could imagine. The fact that this school is on the chopping block is extremely troubling. Sure, the building will need a lot of money some day, but it isn’t getting any of it now. Yet the place thrives. It’s organized chaos of the best kind. The place is full, the parents are involved and the kids are soaring academically. Closing this school would be spiritual death for a splendid section of our city. Certainly the beloved new Montlake Library will feel a bit stiffer without those crazy kids popping in. And the storefronts, without student art shows, will look more drab. The market and coffee shop, lacking chatting parents and snacking kids, will quiet down considerably. And so on. This sucks.

]]> By: Ben http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/comment-page-1/#comment-2225 Ben Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:37:06 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2008/12/18/the-neighborhood-school/#comment-2225 This is interesting to me because when I play SimCity I almost always build a residential area out of blocks that are all around a central block with schools in it. You get good education scores and it builds the city up nicely. Once again, the US school system shows its ugliest flaw - being funded at the neighbourhood level. In Australia schools are funded at a state level. Sure, some neighbourhoods are still more sketchy than others but nobody can claim that rich people get better public schools. A lot of proposed solutions to 'fixing' education in the US seem to ignore this crucial point. Hyperlocal funding of schools is a constraint that makes any solution unviable. This is interesting to me because when I play SimCity I almost always build a residential area out of blocks that are all around a central block with schools in it. You get good education scores and it builds the city up nicely.

Once again, the US school system shows its ugliest flaw – being funded at the neighbourhood level. In Australia schools are funded at a state level. Sure, some neighbourhoods are still more sketchy than others but nobody can claim that rich people get better public schools.

A lot of proposed solutions to ‘fixing’ education in the US seem to ignore this crucial point. Hyperlocal funding of schools is a constraint that makes any solution unviable.

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