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	<title>Comments on: Of Clean Coal, Unicorns, Falsies, and 350 ppm</title>
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	<description>&#62; so much wonderful packaged in such a mess</description>
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		<title>By: Bath Screens&#160;</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/21/of-clean-coal-unicorns-falsies-and-350-ppm/comment-page-1/#comment-359741</link>
		<dc:creator>Bath Screens&#160;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>our home insulation are always made out of polystyrene foams, my friend also suggested the use of polyurrethane foams&#039;:*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>our home insulation are always made out of polystyrene foams, my friend also suggested the use of polyurrethane foams&#8217;:*</p>
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		<title>By: Jesus Peyton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesus Peyton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 04:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a wonderful post. With thanks Research Produced Simple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a wonderful post. With thanks Research Produced Simple</p>
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		<title>By: What It&#8217;s Going To Take &#124; hugeasscity</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2008/12/21/of-clean-coal-unicorns-falsies-and-350-ppm/comment-page-1/#comment-2246</link>
		<dc:creator>What It&#8217;s Going To Take &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] arrested today for protesting mountaintop removal coal mining.  I&#8217;ve blogged about Hansen here and here, and was so moved by today&#8217;s news (via Alan Durning&#8217;s fb update) that I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] arrested today for protesting mountaintop removal coal mining.  I&#8217;ve blogged about Hansen here and here, and was so moved by today&#8217;s news (via Alan Durning&#8217;s fb update) that I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: joshuadf</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshuadf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also the things that won&#039;t show up on any carbon calculator: live simply. Enjoy the walks so you don&#039;t &quot;need&quot; to drive places. And the biggie: work for structural change.

Also, I love my greens and went veggie for a while, but I&#039;ve learned that most of the waste in animal raising is due to the horrific conventional agriculture: fossil fuel fertilizers, CAFOs, food distribution, etc. There is nothing wrong with being vegan, but I don&#039;t feel bad about buying some Sea Breeze cheese (raised on Vashon) either. The ruminant digestive system evolved to metabolize many things that humans cannot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also the things that won&#8217;t show up on any carbon calculator: live simply. Enjoy the walks so you don&#8217;t &#8220;need&#8221; to drive places. And the biggie: work for structural change.</p>
<p>Also, I love my greens and went veggie for a while, but I&#8217;ve learned that most of the waste in animal raising is due to the horrific conventional agriculture: fossil fuel fertilizers, CAFOs, food distribution, etc. There is nothing wrong with being vegan, but I don&#8217;t feel bad about buying some Sea Breeze cheese (raised on Vashon) either. The ruminant digestive system evolved to metabolize many things that humans cannot.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Staley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Staley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CFL compact fluorescent light
CAFE corporate avg fuel economy
YMMV your mileage may vary.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/7jz2ek&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Acronym dictionary.&lt;/a&gt;

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Dan&#039;l,

Back when I lived in Sacto, SMUD was opposing dam removal on the Trinity, because that&#039;s where they got a bunch of their &quot;green&quot; power from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CFL compact fluorescent light<br />
CAFE corporate avg fuel economy<br />
YMMV your mileage may vary.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/7jz2ek" rel="nofollow">Acronym dictionary.</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Dan&#8217;l,</p>
<p>Back when I lived in Sacto, SMUD was opposing dam removal on the Trinity, because that&#8217;s where they got a bunch of their &#8220;green&#8221; power from.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt the Engineer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt the Engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compact fluorescent lighting, corporate average fuel economy (US efficiency requirements), your mileage may vary.

Gah!  How can I forget about vegetarianism/veganism!!?  I&#039;ve been veggie for about 15 years, and one of my prime reasons is efficiency.  We don&#039;t have a food shortage problem on our planet, we have a food efficiency problem - we feed much of our food to animals, which provide us with only 10% of the food value in return.  Not to mention the energy/effort/pollution required to raise animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compact fluorescent lighting, corporate average fuel economy (US efficiency requirements), your mileage may vary.</p>
<p>Gah!  How can I forget about vegetarianism/veganism!!?  I&#8217;ve been veggie for about 15 years, and one of my prime reasons is efficiency.  We don&#8217;t have a food shortage problem on our planet, we have a food efficiency problem &#8211; we feed much of our food to animals, which provide us with only 10% of the food value in return.  Not to mention the energy/effort/pollution required to raise animals.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys.

I just did my carbon footprint a short while ago and discovered that I&#039;m doing pretty well compared to the rest of the nation.  But, if I become a vegetarian my carbon foot print reduces by nearly a third.  If I become a vegan it has the single largest reduction of carbon use.  I find that amazing and understandable.

Dan, is CFL=Canadian Football League?  What is CAFE and YMMV?

I also agree that hydro is not the answer.  If we need the rivers for energy we need to find another way to tap them without changing the landscape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys.</p>
<p>I just did my carbon footprint a short while ago and discovered that I&#8217;m doing pretty well compared to the rest of the nation.  But, if I become a vegetarian my carbon foot print reduces by nearly a third.  If I become a vegan it has the single largest reduction of carbon use.  I find that amazing and understandable.</p>
<p>Dan, is CFL=Canadian Football League?  What is CAFE and YMMV?</p>
<p>I also agree that hydro is not the answer.  If we need the rivers for energy we need to find another way to tap them without changing the landscape.</p>
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		<title>By: dan bertolet</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan bertolet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MTE, electricity from Seattle City Light may be near carbon neutral because of the hydro source, but that does not mean it&#039;s a free lunch.  Hydro is tapped and demand is rising, so every kWh hour not used essentially saves a &quot;dirty&quot; kWh that would most likely be generated by fossil fuels.  Honest CO2 accounting means you assume an emissions factor that&#039;s more representative of the typical energy mix.  SCL uses 0.6 kgCO2/kWh.

Spencer, if you (like me) are an evil single-family home owner and don&#039;t drive much, the biggest impact you can likely have is in your home.  Insulation, windows, appliances, etc, you know the drill.  For me,  the biggest roadblock is the high cost of replacement windows, probably $30k or more to do my whole house.

And don&#039;t forget that as the smarty pantses at Sightline have noted, it may be that energy efficiency is a better investment than  the stock market.

http://daily.sightline.org/daily_score/archive/2008/09/16/rational-exuberance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MTE, electricity from Seattle City Light may be near carbon neutral because of the hydro source, but that does not mean it&#8217;s a free lunch.  Hydro is tapped and demand is rising, so every kWh hour not used essentially saves a &#8220;dirty&#8221; kWh that would most likely be generated by fossil fuels.  Honest CO2 accounting means you assume an emissions factor that&#8217;s more representative of the typical energy mix.  SCL uses 0.6 kgCO2/kWh.</p>
<p>Spencer, if you (like me) are an evil single-family home owner and don&#8217;t drive much, the biggest impact you can likely have is in your home.  Insulation, windows, appliances, etc, you know the drill.  For me,  the biggest roadblock is the high cost of replacement windows, probably $30k or more to do my whole house.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget that as the smarty pantses at Sightline have noted, it may be that energy efficiency is a better investment than  the stock market.</p>
<p><a href="http://daily.sightline.org/daily_score/archive/2008/09/16/rational-exuberance" rel="nofollow">http://daily.sightline.org/daily_score/archive/2008/09/16/rational-exuberance</a></p>
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		<title>By: drewvsea</title>
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		<dc:creator>drewvsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dan,

I was just catching up on my blog reading for the week, and, my, were you ever prescient with this post.  As you&#039;re probably aware by now, there was a nasty coal ash spill in TN just the day after you wrote the above text.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/27/us/27sludge.html?bl&amp;ex=1230526800&amp;en=6203116ae45cadc3&amp;ei=5087%0A

This coal ash spill is said to be &quot;the largest environmental disaster of its kind in the United States&quot; and yet it&#039;s curiously absent from the top headlines on major news sites.  Nor are we ever shown the day-to-day environmental carnage that results from coal mining (entire mountaintops razed; streams polluted with arsenic and other toxic runoff, etc., etc...) when discussing the viability of &quot;clean coal.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dan,</p>
<p>I was just catching up on my blog reading for the week, and, my, were you ever prescient with this post.  As you&#8217;re probably aware by now, there was a nasty coal ash spill in TN just the day after you wrote the above text.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/27/us/27sludge.html?bl&amp;ex=1230526800&amp;en=6203116ae45cadc3&amp;ei=5087" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/27/us/27sludge.html?bl&amp;ex=1230526800&amp;en=6203116ae45cadc3&amp;ei=5087</a></p>
<p>This coal ash spill is said to be &#8220;the largest environmental disaster of its kind in the United States&#8221; and yet it&#8217;s curiously absent from the top headlines on major news sites.  Nor are we ever shown the day-to-day environmental carnage that results from coal mining (entire mountaintops razed; streams polluted with arsenic and other toxic runoff, etc., etc&#8230;) when discussing the viability of &#8220;clean coal.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Staley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Staley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the individual level, we can change behaviors to use less, use CFLs, etc.

But this is a drop in the bucket. Also, rule of thirds applies and only ~1/3 of folks make deep reductions or changes to make a difference. The rest don&#039;t care or won&#039;t change or whatever. So,

We need as a society to close production loops, double CAFE standards, move to renewables, eliminate waste, reduce our overall consumption by about 350-450%. But, shucky darns, our economy is based on people buying trinkets and having a short life-cycle to buy new cr*p.

That is: unless society radically changes, individual action won&#039;t do much. YMMV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the individual level, we can change behaviors to use less, use CFLs, etc.</p>
<p>But this is a drop in the bucket. Also, rule of thirds applies and only ~1/3 of folks make deep reductions or changes to make a difference. The rest don&#8217;t care or won&#8217;t change or whatever. So,</p>
<p>We need as a society to close production loops, double CAFE standards, move to renewables, eliminate waste, reduce our overall consumption by about 350-450%. But, shucky darns, our economy is based on people buying trinkets and having a short life-cycle to buy new cr*p.</p>
<p>That is: unless society radically changes, individual action won&#8217;t do much. YMMV.</p>
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