Comments on: What Density Looks Like http://hugeasscity.com/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/ > so much wonderful packaged in such a mess Fri, 18 May 2012 04:54:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Density, An Ill Defined Term - Seattle Transit Blog http://hugeasscity.com/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-634187 Density, An Ill Defined Term - Seattle Transit Blog Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:18:23 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/#comment-634187 [...] is a post by Dan at his old home at HugeAssCity on the topic. Much of the heat in the debate over urban [...] [...] is a post by Dan at his old home at HugeAssCity on the topic. Much of the heat in the debate over urban [...]

]]> By: This is More Important: Setting the Density of Urban Centers in King County | citytank http://hugeasscity.com/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-631217 This is More Important: Setting the Density of Urban Centers in King County | citytank Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:53:55 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/#comment-631217 [...] recommendation maintains the out-dated density of only 15 residential units per gross acre. That level of density is in the range of a typical townhouse development. Why would we set such a low target for [...] [...] recommendation maintains the out-dated density of only 15 residential units per gross acre. That level of density is in the range of a typical townhouse development. Why would we set such a low target for [...]

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]]> By: stephen goldsmith http://hugeasscity.com/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-2645 stephen goldsmith Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:52:48 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/#comment-2645 For those of you wanting .ppt's to help demystify density, there are outstanding, downloadable lectures and .ppt presentations available at: www.designadvisor.org Great work by our friends at NJIT. For those of you wanting .ppt’s to help demystify density, there are outstanding, downloadable lectures and .ppt presentations available at: http://www.designadvisor.org

Great work by our friends at NJIT.

]]> By: joshuadf http://hugeasscity.com/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-2651 joshuadf Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:16:02 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/#comment-2651 John, looks like your link above should be <a href="http://psrc.org/projects/monitoring/pdf%20files/chapter2.pdf" rel="nofollow">psrc.org/projects/monitoring/pdf%20files/chapter2.pdf</a>. Please note that those "Regional Growth Centers" are also much larger areas than just the .5 mi radius from stations (and presumably density would drop off in many locations). I'd love to see the net density numbers around the existing and proposed Link, Sounder, and RapidRide stations if anyone wants to crunch them. Both actual built like PSRC provided and maximum allowed by zoning, thanks. :) John, looks like your link above should be psrc.org/projects/monitoring/pdf%20files/chapter2.pdf. Please note that those “Regional Growth Centers” are also much larger areas than just the .5 mi radius from stations (and presumably density would drop off in many locations).

I’d love to see the net density numbers around the existing and proposed Link, Sounder, and RapidRide stations if anyone wants to crunch them. Both actual built like PSRC provided and maximum allowed by zoning, thanks. :)

]]> By: joshuadf http://hugeasscity.com/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-2650 joshuadf Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:30:19 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/#comment-2650 The visuals are certainly helpful. I do fear that showing pictures of all new development might lead to a misconception that the entire neighborhood would be replaced. Also, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it a little misleading to put actual density figures like "14 DU/AC" when the bill has more to do with maximum allowed by zoning? What is the "allowed net density" of those same parcels? The visuals are certainly helpful. I do fear that showing pictures of all new development might lead to a misconception that the entire neighborhood would be replaced.

Also, correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t it a little misleading to put actual density figures like “14 DU/AC” when the bill has more to do with maximum allowed by zoning? What is the “allowed net density” of those same parcels?

]]> By: John Niles http://hugeasscity.com/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/comment-page-1/#comment-2652 John Niles Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:50:12 +0000 http://noisetank.com/hugeasscity/2009/02/12/what-density-looks-like/#comment-2652 The graphics above are very helpful in explaining how net density works out. Thanks. A useful supplement would be to include an estimate of the average square feet per unit in each of the examples shown. I'm thinking the dining room table might need to be pretty small in some of the units in the denser blocks? In "TABLE 13. POPULATION TARGETS AND DENSITIES" sourced to U.S. Census data in the Puget Sound Regional Council report, Central Puget Sound Regional Growth Centers — 2002, posted at http://psrc.org/projects/monitoring/pdf%20files /chapter2.pdf, "Capitol Hill/First Hill" is reported as having a year 2000 population density (persons/gross acre)of 36 people per acre. The planning target for 2014 is stated as 43. Is there a rule of thumb for turning urban measurements of persons per gross acre into housing units per net acre? Gross acres to net acres would drive the number up, but persons to housing units would drive it down, yes? Capitol Hill is revealed in the cited PSRC table as densest of all the officially-designated growth centers of our region. Seattle Downtown comes in at 23 people per gross acre, University Community is at 26, Seattle Uptown Queen Anne at 16. The graphics above are very helpful in explaining how net density works out. Thanks.

A useful supplement would be to include an estimate of the average square feet per unit in each of the examples shown. I’m thinking the dining room table might need to be pretty small in some of the units in the denser blocks?

In “TABLE 13. POPULATION TARGETS AND DENSITIES” sourced to U.S. Census data in the Puget Sound Regional Council report, Central Puget Sound Regional Growth Centers — 2002, posted at http://psrc.org/projects/monitoring/pdf%20files
/chapter2.pdf, “Capitol Hill/First Hill” is reported as having a year 2000 population density (persons/gross acre)of 36 people per acre. The planning target for 2014 is stated as 43.

Is there a rule of thumb for turning urban measurements of persons per gross acre into housing units per net acre? Gross acres to net acres would drive the number up, but persons to housing units would drive it down, yes?

Capitol Hill is revealed in the cited PSRC table as densest of all the officially-designated growth centers of our region. Seattle Downtown comes in at 23 people per gross acre, University Community is at 26, Seattle Uptown Queen Anne at 16.

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