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	<description>&#62; so much wonderful packaged in such a mess</description>
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		<title>By: Miles Nilsby</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/04/01/the-seattle-timidity/comment-page-1/#comment-258082</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles Nilsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am starting to share this news  my friends! thanks a lot</description>
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		<title>By: File Under Portland Envy &#124; hugeasscity</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/04/01/the-seattle-timidity/comment-page-1/#comment-94302</link>
		<dc:creator>File Under Portland Envy &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] envy among urbanists has become a cliche, and there may well be more hype than substance. But still, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] envy among urbanists has become a cliche, and there may well be more hype than substance. But still, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Voice Of Reason That Needs To Be Louder &#124; hugeasscity</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/04/01/the-seattle-timidity/comment-page-1/#comment-9800</link>
		<dc:creator>A Voice Of Reason That Needs To Be Louder &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with the important caveat that the 50 unit per year limit be removed, as was discussed in this HAC post.  The second letter recommends several constructive tweaks to the proposed multifamily code [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with the important caveat that the 50 unit per year limit be removed, as was discussed in this HAC post.  The second letter recommends several constructive tweaks to the proposed multifamily code [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Criminally Unfair, One-Sided, Amateur Blog-Style Q&#38;A With (Or Without) David Miller &#124; hugeasscity</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/04/01/the-seattle-timidity/comment-page-1/#comment-3150</link>
		<dc:creator>A Criminally Unfair, One-Sided, Amateur Blog-Style Q&#38;A With (Or Without) David Miller &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cottages in all single-family zones in the City?  Would you support removing the proposed limit of 50 permits per year, since that limit is would only allow about 5% of Seattle&#8217;s single-family homes to get a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cottages in all single-family zones in the City?  Would you support removing the proposed limit of 50 permits per year, since that limit is would only allow about 5% of Seattle&#8217;s single-family homes to get a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I Skim The Seattle Times And Crosscut So You Don&#8217;t Have To &#124; hugeasscity</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/04/01/the-seattle-timidity/comment-page-1/#comment-3149</link>
		<dc:creator>I Skim The Seattle Times And Crosscut So You Don&#8217;t Have To &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Crosscut today, some dude apparently has some fear to monger about scary scary backyard cottages.  I would rather work on my income taxes than read it.  It pains me just to link to it, all the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at Crosscut today, some dude apparently has some fear to monger about scary scary backyard cottages.  I would rather work on my income taxes than read it.  It pains me just to link to it, all the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Link Of The Day v.2.0 &#124; hugeasscity</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/04/01/the-seattle-timidity/comment-page-1/#comment-3151</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Link Of The Day v.2.0 &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] possibly not comment on  this bit of Seattle Times lameness regarding Seattle&#8217;s proposal to allow &#8220;backyard cottages&#8221; in single family zones.  The set up of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] possibly not comment on  this bit of Seattle Times lameness regarding Seattle&#8217;s proposal to allow &#8220;backyard cottages&#8221; in single family zones.  The set up of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/04/01/the-seattle-timidity/comment-page-1/#comment-3136</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerns I&#039;ve heard have to do with how far it&#039;s set back from the property line -- many garages which are uninhabited are really near property lines.  People would rather not have the noise, etc.  Also, if parking is required then will huge parts of yards be tarmacked? It&#039;s also not gaining any energy efficiencies to build an unattached unit.

Most are supportive of the idea that family homes now occupied by smaller families or people who want to age in place can accommodate another single person or couple, and that rental can help with the costs of owning a home.  This scenario is  is part of the ADU provisions,

The focus on the Urban Village strategy is important because densities, walkable neighborhoods and healthy neighborhood economic development all play together.  While some zoning might need tweaking, and contract rezones that flow from the plans will usually be accepted anyway, the plans have been not realized in many areas.  It&#039;s not for lack of building activity.  I&#039;ve been involved in reviewing the Central Area Neighborhood Plan.  We have looked at the zoning and what has happened in the last ten years. In instance after instance, new building in L3 zones has been of L1 densities.  Great swathes of land that should be built for enough people to support lively neighborhood mainstreets are built as Seattle 4-packs and 6-packs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerns I&#8217;ve heard have to do with how far it&#8217;s set back from the property line &#8212; many garages which are uninhabited are really near property lines.  People would rather not have the noise, etc.  Also, if parking is required then will huge parts of yards be tarmacked? It&#8217;s also not gaining any energy efficiencies to build an unattached unit.</p>
<p>Most are supportive of the idea that family homes now occupied by smaller families or people who want to age in place can accommodate another single person or couple, and that rental can help with the costs of owning a home.  This scenario is  is part of the ADU provisions,</p>
<p>The focus on the Urban Village strategy is important because densities, walkable neighborhoods and healthy neighborhood economic development all play together.  While some zoning might need tweaking, and contract rezones that flow from the plans will usually be accepted anyway, the plans have been not realized in many areas.  It&#8217;s not for lack of building activity.  I&#8217;ve been involved in reviewing the Central Area Neighborhood Plan.  We have looked at the zoning and what has happened in the last ten years. In instance after instance, new building in L3 zones has been of L1 densities.  Great swathes of land that should be built for enough people to support lively neighborhood mainstreets are built as Seattle 4-packs and 6-packs!</p>
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		<title>By: jake l</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/04/01/the-seattle-timidity/comment-page-1/#comment-3135</link>
		<dc:creator>jake l</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone explain what the opposition towards this is about?  What is the best possible argument that can be had for no DADU&#039;s?  I can&#039;t help but think that as long as light and air is still maintained for the neighboring dwellings, infrastructure is properly set up, and people communicate with each other, there should be no problem....right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone explain what the opposition towards this is about?  What is the best possible argument that can be had for no DADU&#8217;s?  I can&#8217;t help but think that as long as light and air is still maintained for the neighboring dwellings, infrastructure is properly set up, and people communicate with each other, there should be no problem&#8230;.right?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/04/01/the-seattle-timidity/comment-page-1/#comment-3130</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua.  I&#039;m saying a SF-D is better than SF for some Single Family neighborhoods that have those buildings or that want it.  It&#039;s really not upzoning, it&#039;s recognizing and preserving doubling up.  it&#039;s different than auxiliary because you can have two owners.

Zoning to get your neighborhood commercial area is different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua.  I&#8217;m saying a SF-D is better than SF for some Single Family neighborhoods that have those buildings or that want it.  It&#8217;s really not upzoning, it&#8217;s recognizing and preserving doubling up.  it&#8217;s different than auxiliary because you can have two owners.</p>
<p>Zoning to get your neighborhood commercial area is different.</p>
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		<title>By: R on Beacon Hill</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/04/01/the-seattle-timidity/comment-page-1/#comment-3148</link>
		<dc:creator>R on Beacon Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t get excited one way or another about extending the backyard cottage zoning. If there was any demand, to speak of, homeowners who wanted them in their back yards, there would&#039;ve been a lot more than a few dozen built in SE Seattle, in the years since they were legalized there.

A better strategy might be to avoid going to war with NIMBY single-family neighborhoods and focus on concentrating growth in Urban Centers, Urban Villages, and light rail station areas.

I expect that increasing allowed density in such centers by a few percentage points would yield far more additional dwelling units than would ever get built in Seattle backyards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t get excited one way or another about extending the backyard cottage zoning. If there was any demand, to speak of, homeowners who wanted them in their back yards, there would&#8217;ve been a lot more than a few dozen built in SE Seattle, in the years since they were legalized there.</p>
<p>A better strategy might be to avoid going to war with NIMBY single-family neighborhoods and focus on concentrating growth in Urban Centers, Urban Villages, and light rail station areas.</p>
<p>I expect that increasing allowed density in such centers by a few percentage points would yield far more additional dwelling units than would ever get built in Seattle backyards.</p>
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