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	<title>Comments on: The Only Problem With The Proposed Seattle Housing Levy Is That It Isn&#8217;t Big Enough</title>
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	<description>&#62; so much wonderful packaged in such a mess</description>
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		<title>By: AlonaCalhouncabbsltg</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlonaCalhouncabbsltg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this video makes the bed intruder one look like heaven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this video makes the bed intruder one look like heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: super cheap motor parts</title>
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		<dc:creator>super cheap motor parts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 05:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually don&#039;t post, but found this article of great value, Thank you Author</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually don&#8217;t post, but found this article of great value, Thank you Author</p>
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		<title>By: Yes Virginia, Density Causes Sprawl&#8212;Lorax Edition &#124; hugeasscity</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/07/12/the-only-problem-with-the-proposed-seattle-housing-levy-is-that-it-isnt-big-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-80931</link>
		<dc:creator>Yes Virginia, Density Causes Sprawl&#8212;Lorax Edition &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and those rents are going to go even higher (you may be feeling the pull toward a discusion of affordable housing, but we&#8217;re not going there [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and those rents are going to go even higher (you may be feeling the pull toward a discusion of affordable housing, but we&#8217;re not going there [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Regarding The Upcoming Election: One Acronym And A Punctuation Mark: WTF? &#124; hugeasscity</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/07/12/the-only-problem-with-the-proposed-seattle-housing-levy-is-that-it-isnt-big-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-34878</link>
		<dc:creator>Regarding The Upcoming Election: One Acronym And A Punctuation Mark: WTF? &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] little that can be done about it aside from government subsidy.   So then, how is it that the modest levy on the current ballot isn&#8217;t a slam dunk at the polls?  And for that matter,  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] little that can be done about it aside from government subsidy.   So then, how is it that the modest levy on the current ballot isn&#8217;t a slam dunk at the polls?  And for that matter,  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What Do You Spend $5.50 A Month On? &#124; hugeasscity</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/07/12/the-only-problem-with-the-proposed-seattle-housing-levy-is-that-it-isnt-big-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-33852</link>
		<dc:creator>What Do You Spend $5.50 A Month On? &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] housing developer and community organizer at Capitol Hill Housing.  More on the housing levy here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] housing developer and community organizer at Capitol Hill Housing.  More on the housing levy here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This levy is good because it targets (for the most part) vulnerable populations who have no prayer of housing otherwise. or it should...At some point (maybe $145 million) the leverage decreases on each dollar raised locally as the 9% LIHTC allocation and State HTFs are exhausted. I hope the levy was sized to maximize this levy.

as for broader affordability goals, a levy of this size, or double or triple this size will have almost 0 effect on affordability due to the size of the housing market.

The popping of the housing bubble is doing more for affordability than any levy ever could. time for some cross-pollination of my favorite blogs:

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/07/housing-update-how-far-to-bottom.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This levy is good because it targets (for the most part) vulnerable populations who have no prayer of housing otherwise. or it should&#8230;At some point (maybe $145 million) the leverage decreases on each dollar raised locally as the 9% LIHTC allocation and State HTFs are exhausted. I hope the levy was sized to maximize this levy.</p>
<p>as for broader affordability goals, a levy of this size, or double or triple this size will have almost 0 effect on affordability due to the size of the housing market.</p>
<p>The popping of the housing bubble is doing more for affordability than any levy ever could. time for some cross-pollination of my favorite blogs:</p>
<p><a href="http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/07/housing-update-how-far-to-bottom.html" rel="nofollow">http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/07/housing-update-how-far-to-bottom.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ktstine</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktstine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And these projects actually save taxpayer money. Here is a link to DESC&#039;s 1811 project, which recently published a study on having saved the City over $4 million in emergency services during its first year of operation alone! The $2m in Levy investment up front pays us all back in the long run (over and over every year).

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/404451_alcoholic01ww.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And these projects actually save taxpayer money. Here is a link to DESC&#8217;s 1811 project, which recently published a study on having saved the City over $4 million in emergency services during its first year of operation alone! The $2m in Levy investment up front pays us all back in the long run (over and over every year).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.seattlepi.com/local/404451_alcoholic01ww.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.seattlepi.com/local/404451_alcoholic01ww.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Daniel Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Daniel Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have very mixed feelings about supporting an economic system that denies workers a living wage, but this is not the fault of the housing levy! We need to provide places for people making $10/hr to live while we work for structural change.

I will say that I think &quot;drive &#039;til you qualify&quot; is more of a middle-income phenomenon, and I&#039;m glad that quality market-rate apartments are providing an alternative to that segment of the population, too. For example, according to estimates at Redfin most of the population growth in SLU since 2000 has been middle-income renters under 40, many with children. (Veer is currently the only condo building in SLU, the rest are apartments.)

Oh, and by the way the housing levy does also support the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lihi.org/__prop_BartHarvey0001.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poor elderly&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.desc.org/Canaday_Supportive_Housing.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mentally ill&lt;/a&gt;, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have very mixed feelings about supporting an economic system that denies workers a living wage, but this is not the fault of the housing levy! We need to provide places for people making $10/hr to live while we work for structural change.</p>
<p>I will say that I think &#8220;drive &#8217;til you qualify&#8221; is more of a middle-income phenomenon, and I&#8217;m glad that quality market-rate apartments are providing an alternative to that segment of the population, too. For example, according to estimates at Redfin most of the population growth in SLU since 2000 has been middle-income renters under 40, many with children. (Veer is currently the only condo building in SLU, the rest are apartments.)</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way the housing levy does also support the <a href="http://www.lihi.org/__prop_BartHarvey0001.html" rel="nofollow">poor elderly</a> and <a href="http://www.desc.org/Canaday_Supportive_Housing.html" rel="nofollow">mentally ill</a>, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Finishtag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finishtag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@1 &quot;The reality is that no one — especially now with declining housing prices — wants “affordable” housing except the social-service agencies which build it.&quot;

Your essay that you link to is about home-ownership and subsidizing home ownership. The 2009 Housing Levy has only 6% of its funds allocated for home ownership programs. Home ownership programs are not built by &quot;social-service agencies.&quot;

I support the Levy because shelter is a basic human right and I think City financial support of subsidized rental housing makes this a better city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@1 &#8220;The reality is that no one — especially now with declining housing prices — wants “affordable” housing except the social-service agencies which build it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your essay that you link to is about home-ownership and subsidizing home ownership. The 2009 Housing Levy has only 6% of its funds allocated for home ownership programs. Home ownership programs are not built by &#8220;social-service agencies.&#8221;</p>
<p>I support the Levy because shelter is a basic human right and I think City financial support of subsidized rental housing makes this a better city.</p>
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		<title>By: ktstine</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktstine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@4 This is a very good question. Up here in Capitol Hill we are lucky enough to be transit &quot;rich&quot; (i.e. there are about 10 different bus lines that pick-up right outside of Broadway Crossing) As a result, we find that most of our renters don&#039;t need to have a car, because they are able to live in the neighborhood where they work and/or have appointments (doctors, case workers, etc.) This is very important to every one of our developments at Capitol Hill Housing - that it be accessible to transit. We currently have two projects in the pipeline on 12th Avenue - one a few blocks from the future light rail station on Cap Hill and one further south right on a bus line and near the future streetcar line. The tricky part is that this land tends to be more expensive, so it is not always realistic to expect nonprofits to be able to afford this proximity to light rail especially, without direct City subsidy or reduced cost of land (if the City is selling).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@4 This is a very good question. Up here in Capitol Hill we are lucky enough to be transit &#8220;rich&#8221; (i.e. there are about 10 different bus lines that pick-up right outside of Broadway Crossing) As a result, we find that most of our renters don&#8217;t need to have a car, because they are able to live in the neighborhood where they work and/or have appointments (doctors, case workers, etc.) This is very important to every one of our developments at Capitol Hill Housing &#8211; that it be accessible to transit. We currently have two projects in the pipeline on 12th Avenue &#8211; one a few blocks from the future light rail station on Cap Hill and one further south right on a bus line and near the future streetcar line. The tricky part is that this land tends to be more expensive, so it is not always realistic to expect nonprofits to be able to afford this proximity to light rail especially, without direct City subsidy or reduced cost of land (if the City is selling).</p>
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