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	<title>Comments on: A New Equation:  McGinn &gt; Mallahan &gt; Nickels</title>
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	<description>&#62; so much wonderful packaged in such a mess</description>
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		<title>By: gene</title>
		<link>http://hugeasscity.com/2009/08/19/a-new-equation-mcginn-mallahan-nickels/comment-page-1/#comment-4504</link>
		<dc:creator>gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@20 - The tunnel is as close to a “done deal” as we will ever get. It’s state law. I do believe the final pieces will fall into place to make it happen. But I guess the fact that that hasn’t happened yet gives a lot of folks hope to throw the whole thing out and start over from scratch, and spend another decade trying to work out a solution. And if McGinn and Chopp are able to scrap the tunnel, you think there is consensus on what should happen? There are still equal numbers who want a rebuild as want a surface road. It will be another decade of squabbling and hysteria, and probably end with something worse than a tunnel. Or perhaps in that time the Big One will just knock it down and kill a ton of people. Is that what you want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@20 &#8211; The tunnel is as close to a “done deal” as we will ever get. It’s state law. I do believe the final pieces will fall into place to make it happen. But I guess the fact that that hasn’t happened yet gives a lot of folks hope to throw the whole thing out and start over from scratch, and spend another decade trying to work out a solution. And if McGinn and Chopp are able to scrap the tunnel, you think there is consensus on what should happen? There are still equal numbers who want a rebuild as want a surface road. It will be another decade of squabbling and hysteria, and probably end with something worse than a tunnel. Or perhaps in that time the Big One will just knock it down and kill a ton of people. Is that what you want?</p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great.

Steve Shear and his guests are saying Frank Chopp and Mike McGinn will be getting together on the Viaduct Issue. Can&#039;t wait for the result of that meet up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great.</p>
<p>Steve Shear and his guests are saying Frank Chopp and Mike McGinn will be getting together on the Viaduct Issue. Can&#8217;t wait for the result of that meet up.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Daniel Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Daniel Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the bored tunnel issue is a big one, it&#039;s far from the only one. In my opinion McGinn is weak on transit compared to Nickels, but he at least &lt;a href=&quot;http://mcginnformayor.com/issues/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;understands that SDOT can make a big difference&lt;/a&gt;. Mallahan is even worse: his plan &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.joemallahan.com/Issues/Transportation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;consists of stopping the Mercer project and &quot;efforts to obtain stimulus funding&quot; &lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s not clear Joe has ever stepped foot on a bus.

As far as I can tell neither McGinn nor Mallahan has made substantive comments about land use, though McGinn has a strong history with Great City. Mallahan&#039;s main qualification for mayor seems to be leveraging synergy at a for-profit corporation, which may or may not be useful experience for public administration. (There&#039;s a reason a lot of politicians are lawyers.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the bored tunnel issue is a big one, it&#8217;s far from the only one. In my opinion McGinn is weak on transit compared to Nickels, but he at least <a href="http://mcginnformayor.com/issues/" rel="nofollow">understands that SDOT can make a big difference</a>. Mallahan is even worse: his plan <a href="http://www.joemallahan.com/Issues/Transportation" rel="nofollow">consists of stopping the Mercer project and &#8220;efforts to obtain stimulus funding&#8221; </a>. It&#8217;s not clear Joe has ever stepped foot on a bus.</p>
<p>As far as I can tell neither McGinn nor Mallahan has made substantive comments about land use, though McGinn has a strong history with Great City. Mallahan&#8217;s main qualification for mayor seems to be leveraging synergy at a for-profit corporation, which may or may not be useful experience for public administration. (There&#8217;s a reason a lot of politicians are lawyers.)</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@17
Gene, there is still no EIS on this tunnel alternative. WSDOT must go through the SEPA and NEPA process by law even if the bored tunnel is supposedly a &quot;done deal&quot;. Furthermore none of the funding is completely in place. Even the state is $400 million short for their portion which they &quot;might&quot; be able to make up with tolls but they aren&#039;t sure because nobody has done the studies yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@17<br />
Gene, there is still no EIS on this tunnel alternative. WSDOT must go through the SEPA and NEPA process by law even if the bored tunnel is supposedly a &#8220;done deal&#8221;. Furthermore none of the funding is completely in place. Even the state is $400 million short for their portion which they &#8220;might&#8221; be able to make up with tolls but they aren&#8217;t sure because nobody has done the studies yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@19: But being a mayor is just like being a community organizer, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@19: But being a mayor is just like being a community organizer, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@17.
I think I&#039;m with you. I&#039;m pretty scared of McGinn&#039;s utter lack of experience as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@17.<br />
I think I&#8217;m with you. I&#8217;m pretty scared of McGinn&#8217;s utter lack of experience as well.</p>
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		<title>By: gene</title>
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		<dc:creator>gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted for Nickels, but if I have to choose between Mallahan and McGinn, I would definitely go with Mallahan.  It&#039;s a shame, because I would love to vote for an environmentalist, but McGinn&#039;s #1 priority is stopping the tunnel, and I am at peace with that decision.  I didn&#039;t favor a tunnel but I&#039;m glad a decision was made that wasn&#039;t a rebuild, and I&#039;m just happy it&#039;s all over.  I don&#039;t want another decade of squabbling and dozens more impact studies on this.  I really mean it when I say I dislike the &quot;Seattle process&quot; and I can support a decision even if it wasn&#039;t what I originally wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted for Nickels, but if I have to choose between Mallahan and McGinn, I would definitely go with Mallahan.  It&#8217;s a shame, because I would love to vote for an environmentalist, but McGinn&#8217;s #1 priority is stopping the tunnel, and I am at peace with that decision.  I didn&#8217;t favor a tunnel but I&#8217;m glad a decision was made that wasn&#8217;t a rebuild, and I&#8217;m just happy it&#8217;s all over.  I don&#8217;t want another decade of squabbling and dozens more impact studies on this.  I really mean it when I say I dislike the &#8220;Seattle process&#8221; and I can support a decision even if it wasn&#8217;t what I originally wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@12 Thanks for the heads up.  Thats an interesting perspective.  I happen to have thought the whole thing was rather funny when I saw the sticker at Rebar on Saturday night.  I have no idea who created it and I had not heard of the Forch incident.  I think its more of an issue of tact then it is and issue of double standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@12 Thanks for the heads up.  Thats an interesting perspective.  I happen to have thought the whole thing was rather funny when I saw the sticker at Rebar on Saturday night.  I have no idea who created it and I had not heard of the Forch incident.  I think its more of an issue of tact then it is and issue of double standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Max J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@13 Some will go for one, some will go for the other. Personally, I&#039;m disappointed Nickels is out, he is the best on land-use and transit (no matter what anyone says). McGinn is a slow-growther and is way behind nickels on transit. Mallahan seems like a (relative) conservative.

I&#039;ll likely vote for McGinn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@13 Some will go for one, some will go for the other. Personally, I&#8217;m disappointed Nickels is out, he is the best on land-use and transit (no matter what anyone says). McGinn is a slow-growther and is way behind nickels on transit. Mallahan seems like a (relative) conservative.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll likely vote for McGinn.</p>
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		<title>By: krustyklown</title>
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		<dc:creator>krustyklown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathryn,
That&#039;s purely an assumption. It seems like the biggest issue that separates Mcginn supporters from the Mayor is the Viaduct replacement (a polarizing issue). My feeling is most of the Mayor&#039;s supporters will not vote for Mcginn because of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathryn,<br />
That&#8217;s purely an assumption. It seems like the biggest issue that separates Mcginn supporters from the Mayor is the Viaduct replacement (a polarizing issue). My feeling is most of the Mayor&#8217;s supporters will not vote for Mcginn because of that.</p>
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