Better to have that stimulus money come to Seattle, create jobs in Seattle, and build a project that will enhance the pedestrian environment of our city than to have it go to Pheonix to build more highways and more sprawl. We’re paying for it anyway, might as well get some of it.
You’re conflating two different issues in your title. Many of the schools do not have enough students and we need more schools in the north part of the city and less in the south. Relating the school issues to the freeway building spree isn’t quite right.
What I’d like to say for every gax tax buck we raise in Seattle, we send it something like 60% off to Eastern Washington to build and repair their roads and pave new places for strip malls for them. I am totally fine to get some of that money back! I don’t know how the heck a giant tunnel will be safer in the big earthquake on all that landfill down on the bay…but I’d certainly like a giant park down on the waterfront instead of a freeway.
Since the state is obviously trying to get stimulus money, fairly enough, why don’t we ask for a deep bore tunnel for TRANSIT instead?
I mean, with say, $3 billion we could at least get from West Seattle, through a tunnel downtown. Then we just run a line up Aurora, which, according to Peter Newman is only $30 mill per km, or $48 mill per mile. Thus, we could probably get at least to Greenlake for like 1 billion more. I mean, this isn’t quite to Ballard but ST3 could finish that part up and it would be much cheaper.
I’m not up to speed on many of the transportation issues but Aurora seems like a prime corridor for rail transit/transit oriented development/etc. Has this ever been officially — cover your ears! — studied?
If they’re trying to get stimulus money, I think they are much too late, since the money is supposed to go to projects that are shovel ready in the next two years. They haven’t even completed an EIS (or similar report) from my understanding, and it seems like this will not be the last we’ll hear about the viaduct legally (or fiscally, for that matter).
I also agree with Josh. At least incorporate a transit aspect into the tunnel! What about a three lane highway in the middle of the bored tunnel (since the complaints about getting rid of the viaduct that trucks heading north from the piers will have no way to get there, have two north lanes) sandwiched by two light rail trains? I’m no engineer but from that sketch it looked like there would be room.
Hmm. Just north of the where the tunnel comes out at Aurora and Thomas is the Gates Foundation headquarters. Just east is Vulcan’s South Lake Union. There may be another angle on funding that’s not in the press release: a private Gates/Allen bypass tunnel.
keith: Transit up 99 doesn’t compare favorably with transit through Belltown and Lower Queen Anne to Ballard. Tunneling rail from West Seattle to Ballard under 1st or 2nd Avenue would be far more cost effective – more total dollars, fewer dollars per passenger.
Not only is a tunnel being built, while schools are being closed, Mr. Mayor of Seattle thinks a better use of tax payer money is to build a jail hotel (will rent out cells to other cities. )Where people go when they get released? Not far.
We know when a person is undereducated they are more likely than those who are to end up in penal system. So, if this is Mr.Mayor’s vision support school closures and prepare for the fall out by building a jail. Who is running against this vision?
I do appreciate a good graph – something more useful than words to bring a concept across. This graph is very simple, but shows how strange it is that we’re worrying about a few million dollars for schools while throwing billions as a project that may serve to be almost useless.